Sydney_Iron 10:30 Wed Feb 20
Handball rules for Penaltys?
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Watching the Man city game tonight, Shalke player takes a shot and it hits Otamendis arm, Ref gets VAR involved, which takes a ridiculous 5 mins!!!!
Reply clearly shows Otamendi trying to pull his arm back so the ball wont hit him but it still does, outcome is he gets booked and Shalke get a penalty, score and its 1-1.
Doesnt a penalty have to be for deliberate handball??? this was clearly not the case.
Oh, and anyone see the shield in the crowd of Shalke fans with amongst other things the crossed hammers on it, Whats that all about?
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BRANDED
10:32 Wed Feb 20
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Dirt
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Grumpster
10:37 Wed Feb 20
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Turned it off after that, as other than a silly decision to me, var is going to ruin an already ruined sport if it takes 5 minutes a pop.
Literally takes 10 seconds to show a replay and decide on something like that.
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Cheezey Bell-End
10:37 Wed Feb 20
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It's like when Kewell was penalised for hand ball playing for Australia in the 2010 WC. Ball was driven at him so hard that he barely had time to flinch. But he was sent off and a penalty awarded.
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fraser
10:41 Wed Feb 20
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Cheezey Bell-End 10:37 Wed Feb 20
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That's totally different and justified, he's Australian
HTH
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RBshorty
10:43 Wed Feb 20
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Ref has had a shocker.
On a side note. The Ref’s Union ain’t too happy with Pep. Due to the fact he didn’t show up to a meeting explaining VAR rules and method of working. And all that jazz. He sent Brian Kidd instead. Upset one or two of them, by all accounts.
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blindman
10:45 Wed Feb 20
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Otamendi handles ball, although unintentionally. Gets yellow carded. 5minutes later La Porte handles intentionally and doesn't get cautioned. What;s that all about??
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bertie
10:48 Wed Feb 20
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They need to clarify the timings, if they can’t clearly overturn the decision within 45 seconds it obviously isn’t a clear error and the original decision stands.
I must admit if I was a ref I would tell the players to fuck off instead of standing there having them moan at you as if it is going to influence someone in the Townsend tactics truck in another city.
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Sydney_Iron
11:15 Wed Feb 20
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Cheezey Bell-End 10:37 Wed Feb 20
At least with that wrong decision the ref had NO var, so it was a on the spot decision, this cunt took 5 mins!!!
I also remember Alvin Martin getting sent off years ago for handball as he was falling over, as he put his hand out to break his fall, the ball hit his hand, straight red, rescinded on appeal from memory, again wrong decision but NO var...........
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Fifth Column
11:24 Wed Feb 20
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Sydney
The Alvin Martin thing was for denying a goalscoring opportunity and the bloke was around about on our half way line FFS.
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Fifth Column
11:28 Wed Feb 20
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And yes handball has to be deliberate. Poor decision tonight.
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sanfrancis-co-uk
11:31 Wed Feb 20
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Nice free kick from Sane there.
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RBshorty
11:32 Wed Feb 20
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Oh err mrs.!
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RBshorty
11:36 Wed Feb 20
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RAHEEM!
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sanfrancis-co-uk
11:38 Wed Feb 20
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Out of nothing,fair play.
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FruityBoots.
12:43 Thu Feb 21
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Right decision but too fucking long to get it right. Ball was goal bound and his arm was in line with the line of the ball. He made little attempt to get it away from the line of the ball, I’ve seen drunk blokes having a fight outside a pub move there arms quicker. The daft cunts making the VAR decisions are useless. Why the fuck they bothered with VAR with City’s first makes a complete mockery of how VAR is used and having heard about the Juventus goal that was disallowed then that is also a problem.
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cygnet
1:18 Thu Feb 21
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The Ref was perfectly positioned with a great view and gave a corner. Here's where it broke down. The Ref is supposed to be seen making the VAR decision as well. However, his screen wasn't working. Hence, somebody else had to make the decision which is supposed to be 'clear'. To then take 5m suggests it wasn't a clear mistake. Everything looks very different in slow motion.
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Sven Roeder
9:16 Thu Feb 21
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The handball decision was nonsense
The ball is hit at his arm which is by his side and he even attempts to move it further away.
I understand the ref is supposed to take a look on the screen but it wasn't working so the procedure wasn't followed
He and the VAR types should be demoted
Watched the Atletico game and it was used properly to determine that contact on Costa was just outside the area when a pen had been given.
Almost impossible to see with the naked eye
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On The Ball
9:33 Thu Feb 21
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I think this thread goes to illustrate something that I've thought for a long time - that no-one REALLY knows the rules. That's partly because it's so subjective - it's never quite clear-cut so there's always some interpretation involved.
It was definitely accidental, he was definitely moving his hand out of the way, but it definitely blocked the ball from going towards the goal. I've got no idea what that should be.
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El Scorchio
9:41 Thu Feb 21
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RBshorty 10:43
In this day and age they were probably more fussed and upset about not being able to get a selfie with him than anything else....
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Ronald_antly
9:41 Thu Feb 21
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I would say that an accidental handball that stops a ball that would otherwise (beyond any doubt) have gone into the goal should be a penalty, but with no card issued.
If it ain't going in, then play on.
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